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        Josh Hursey (IBM)
	Sid Jana (Intel | EEHPC-WG)
	Ken Raffenetti (ANL)
	Shinji Sumimoto (Fujitsu)
	Swaroop Pophale (ORNL)
	Jim Garlick (LLNL)
	Stephen Herbein (LLNL)

Agenda

  • Discuss PMIx standardization process
    • Discuss: https://github.com/pmix/pmix-standard/issues/181
      • 2 types of GH Issues
        • “Use Case”
          • Open for discussion around the general topic
        • “RFC”
          • Proposal for changes to the standard for discussion
      • PR:
        • Specific changes to the document
        • Draft PR until implementation is available
        • Template:
          • Links to the progress towards acceptance
        • Suggestion that the author of the PR should not be the one to merge the PR
        • Label for “work in progress” while the working group is working on it still
      • Provides the ability to ‘git blame’ a specific change all the way back through the PR -> RFC -> other discussions
      • Size of the change:
        • Small changes can be specially marked for fast track
        • Larger changes go through normal process
    • PR 181:
      • First reading next week
    • Question: How to define voting rights and quorum?
      • One vote per organization
      • Participating organization
        • Anyone can attend a meeting
        • Someone from the org must attend 2 of past 3 teleconfs to vote
          • For the reading phone call it is important to hear the discussion. We need to capture the discussion.
          • The person doing the reading is responsible for capturing the discussion on the PR.
            • Volunteer from the broader group to be the note taker for the reading.
            • They can record the discussion to help transcribe at a later time. Not for public consumption.
          • If not present on the call, then we need to account for those that wish to participate.
            • Email to the list or participation on the PR
            • How do you signal participation in the last 2 of 3 weeks
            • Alternatively have a rotating concall time.
        • Send out a doodle poll for next set of teleconfs (2 months out)
          • Then we pick a time that works best for the group
          • Send out list of PRs ready for voting
      • Quorum requirement
        • 2/3 of organizations required for a vote
          • Do they need to be physically on the call to vote?
        • Majority of organizations must approve to move forward
      • Should we separate the reading and the voting between two meetings
        • First teleconf the author presents the PR - ‘Reading’
        • Second teleconf (no objection in between) then hold a ‘Vote’
        • Do we want to separate the Vote from the teleconf?
          • For those that cannot attend the teleconf but want to vote
      • Circulate items for vote to mailing list
        • Send eligible organizations for voting along with agenda
    • Question: Implementation requirement
      • A single implementation in any open source PMIx library (not just the PRI)
  • (Dave) Working group: Implementation agnostic document
  • (Stephen) Working group: Slicing/Grouping of functionality
    • https://github.com/pmix/pmix-standard/issues/179
    • Once a PR is accepted/merged it is marked as “experimental”
      • Transition to “---” : Two 3rd party users of the interface
        • After a timeout (say 2 minor versions)
        • Need a better / more deterministic time mechanism
      • Transition to “---” : Either two implementations or after a timeout
        • After a timeout (say 2 minor versions)
      • Use voting process to move the status
        • Have a PR changing the marking “experimental” -> “accepted”
        • List the two users
        • Vote on the change to be accepted in the document
        • Gives direct traceability
  • (Josh) Wiki to collect use cases

Action Items

  • (Josh) Send email about Voting and Quorum
    • Summarize current thinking on the voting process and voting eligibility
    • Present options for those that cannot make the calls, but would still like to have a vote.
      • Rotating or alternating teleconf time
      • Participation on the PR over the past 2 of 3 weeks
      • Asynchronous voting via online poll
  • (Josh) Create a few Use Case Issues on GH to experiment with the template and set some examples for new participants.

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