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pgmpy Log of 10-09-2014
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<h2>Log of the <code>#pgmpy</code> IRC Channel</h2><br/>
<h3>All the times shown here presently are in Indian Standard Time(IST) +0530Hrs<h3/>
<h3>Date : 10-09-2014 </h3><br/><br/>
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<kbd>[13:52:25]</kbd> <strong>[connected at Wed Sep 10 13:52:25 2014]</strong><br/>
<kbd>[13:52:39]</kbd> <strong>[I have joined #pgmpy]</strong><br/>
<kbd>[14:08:02]</kbd> <code><coderbrahmin></code> hi<br/>
<kbd>[14:08:22]</kbd> <code><vvsnna></code> hello<br/>
<kbd>[14:08:25]</kbd> <code><coderbrahmin></code> most probably yaha pe we'll have a meeting.<br/>
<kbd>[14:08:50]</kbd> <code><vvsnna></code> ohh okay.<br/>
<kbd>[14:09:18]</kbd> <code><vvsnna></code> hi pgmpybot<br/>
<kbd>[14:10:25]</kbd> <em>cbrahmin|logs is now known as coderbrahmin</em><br/>
<kbd>[16:07:26]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> ankurankan: hi<br/>
<kbd>[16:07:35]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> shashankg, Give me a min. Ordering food<br/>
<kbd>[16:07:42]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> ok<br/>
<kbd>[16:10:22]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> shashankg, Hi<br/>
<kbd>[16:10:32]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Where's kundu<br/>
<kbd>[16:10:50]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> I don't know.<br/>
<kbd>[16:11:00]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> I pinged him on mail<br/>
<kbd>[16:11:19]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> You have a contact no?<br/>
<kbd>[16:11:58]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> yes<br/>
<kbd>[16:12:35]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Call him or give me the no<br/>
<kbd>[16:12:55]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> 9652196427<br/>
<kbd>[16:13:08]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> This number can't be reached right now.<br/>
<kbd>[16:14:58]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> He's coming. Should we wait or start?<br/>
<kbd>[16:15:13]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> You can register as mentor till then<br/>
<kbd>[16:15:48]</kbd> <code><skundu></code> so has the registration been done<br/>
<kbd>[16:15:55]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> let's start<br/>
<kbd>[16:16:03]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> give me the link<br/>
<kbd>[16:17:01]</kbd> <code><skundu></code> about semester of code do i need to create an account<br/>
<kbd>[16:17:45]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Check you emails<br/>
<kbd>[16:17:51]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> I have sent invite to both of you<br/>
<kbd>[16:18:14]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> ok<br/>
<kbd>[16:20:52]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> ankurankan: I am registering<br/>
<kbd>[16:21:00]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> okay<br/>
<kbd>[16:21:12]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> When will this program start?<br/>
<kbd>[16:21:47]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> start as in<br/>
<kbd>[16:21:48]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> ?<br/>
<kbd>[16:22:29]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> You can see the time line here : http://semesterofcode.com/?p=22<br/>
<kbd>[16:23:40]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> ok<br/>
<kbd>[16:23:55]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> registration done, now lets start with ideas<br/>
<kbd>[16:24:21]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Can you guys also see the idea's page ?<br/>
<kbd>[16:24:48]</kbd> <code><skundu></code> give the link<br/>
<kbd>[16:25:16]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> link for what?<br/>
<kbd>[16:25:23]</kbd> <code><skundu></code> idea page<br/>
<kbd>[16:25:42]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> How many ideas does a project need? What are the expected working hours per week for sem of code?<br/>
<kbd>[16:25:44]</kbd> <code><skundu></code> cant find any ideas for pgmpy<br/>
<kbd>[16:25:48]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> for idea page go to your dashboard<br/>
<kbd>[16:25:56]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> and then manage your project ideas<br/>
<kbd>[16:26:14]</kbd> <code><skundu></code> okay<br/>
<kbd>[16:27:28]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> We have to insert link to some page having our ideas<br/>
<kbd>[16:28:33]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> yeah. So we can create an idea page on github and then add the same description here<br/>
<kbd>[16:29:04]</kbd> <code><skundu></code> lets start on the ideas<br/>
<kbd>[16:29:14]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> ok<br/>
<kbd>[16:29:37]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> So, give some ideas :P<br/>
<kbd>[16:29:55]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> How many ideas should we have ?<br/>
<kbd>[16:31:59]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> I am setting up a doc. We could then edit it together.<br/>
<kbd>[16:32:02]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> idea 1) integration of viz backend and frontend. It will include, sending files. reading json containing graph and tell the backend. Receive graph from pgmpy and convert in into json to send it to front end.<br/>
<kbd>[16:33:42]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RtPSkED8_SnVkdJQ9sG6Y3iUBqGcoXpWPiyjlbZEuS8/edit?usp=sharing<br/>
<kbd>[16:34:21]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Shouldn't we have a project for the backend and a separate project for frontend<br/>
<kbd>[16:34:22]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> ?<br/>
<kbd>[16:35:08]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> We need sem long projects.<br/>
<kbd>[16:35:21]</kbd> <code><skundu></code> +1<br/>
<kbd>[16:35:33]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> Do you know expecting working hours per week for sem of code?<br/>
<kbd>[16:36:03]</kbd> <code><skundu></code> that we need to discuss with the applicants<br/>
<kbd>[16:36:10]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> BC ye sem of code ka idea page thoda pehle banate to jyada badiya hota, unke kisi bande se discuss bhi kar lete is bare mein<br/>
<kbd>[16:36:33]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> We shouldn't expect much from the students. This is not GSoC and AFAIK this is for high school students<br/>
<kbd>[16:36:40]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> ok<br/>
<kbd>[16:37:47]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> So let's split that idea in two parats<br/>
<kbd>[16:37:47]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> The student application period will start from sept 12 so we will have plenty of time to discuss ideas<br/>
<kbd>[16:37:56]</kbd> <code><skundu></code> lets have the cpd and factor development for markov model as one proj<br/>
<kbd>[16:38:26]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> skundu, +1<br/>
<kbd>[16:38:31]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> ok.<br/>
<kbd>[16:38:38]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Let's have a project for backend<br/>
<kbd>[16:38:47]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> One for constructing models in frontend<br/>
<kbd>[16:38:57]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> will high school students be able to work on core pgmpy?<br/>
<kbd>[16:38:57]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> and one for cpd and factor thing<br/>
<kbd>[16:39:05]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> I don't think so<br/>
<kbd>[16:39:55]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> Let's keep only simple projects on core part and focus on viz<br/>
<kbd>[16:40:24]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Yeah we are not proposing any project for pgmpy<br/>
<kbd>[16:40:32]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> I don't want to clean up code again<br/>
<kbd>[16:40:39]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> I am still cleaning up Navin's code<br/>
<kbd>[16:40:46]</kbd> <code><skundu></code> :P<br/>
<kbd>[16:41:24]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> So let's discuss the backend project first<br/>
<kbd>[16:41:34]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> We will be using django<br/>
<kbd>[16:42:01]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> The basic functionality would be to parse the models that are sent from the frontend<br/>
<kbd>[16:42:08]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> ok<br/>
<kbd>[16:42:38]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> And other than that have a few functions for running some algorithms according to the request that comes from the frontend<br/>
<kbd>[16:42:49]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> I think this much should be enough<br/>
<kbd>[16:43:10]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> I would actually expect only django and parsing the model<br/>
<kbd>[16:43:18]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> What do you guys think?<br/>
<kbd>[16:43:49]</kbd> <code><skundu></code> i agree<br/>
<kbd>[16:44:14]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> If they are highschool, than parsing is ok<br/>
<kbd>[16:44:28]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> okay.. I am adding this to the doc<br/>
<kbd>[16:44:52]</kbd> <code><skundu></code> to do that we first need to decide on the basic schema of the files that need to be parsed<br/>
<kbd>[16:45:05]</kbd> <code><skundu></code> but we can do that later<br/>
<kbd>[16:45:48]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> I have that in mind<br/>
<kbd>[16:45:56]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> We have discussed it earlier<br/>
<kbd>[16:46:45]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Check the doc if you want to add anything<br/>
<kbd>[16:48:21]</kbd> <code><skundu></code> any more ideas<br/>
<kbd>[16:48:33]</kbd> <code><skundu></code> i can have enhancements on viz<br/>
<kbd>[16:48:43]</kbd> <code><skundu></code> beautification<br/>
<kbd>[16:49:12]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> It would be a dependent project. Unless the frontend is not complete you can't start with that<br/>
<kbd>[16:49:34]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> +1<br/>
<kbd>[16:49:51]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Are the points for first idea ok in doc?<br/>
<kbd>[16:50:04]</kbd> <code><skundu></code> ok<br/>
<kbd>[16:50:28]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> can't opne the doc<br/>
<kbd>[16:50:38]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Why?<br/>
<kbd>[16:51:06]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> internet problem<br/>
<kbd>[16:51:21]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Okay.<br/>
<kbd>[16:51:30]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Develop a django backend capable of managing session.<br/>
<kbd>[16:51:31]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Add functionality to parse the models being sent in POST requests from the frontend<br/>
<kbd>[16:51:31]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Add a few django view functions to call a few pgmpy functions on the parsed model.<br/>
<kbd>[16:51:40]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> These are the 3 points that I have written<br/>
<kbd>[16:52:13]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> A few A few looks vague<br/>
<kbd>[16:52:21]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> be specific<br/>
<kbd>[16:52:55]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Okay. These are just the basic points. I will expand them<br/>
<kbd>[16:53:10]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> ok<br/>
<kbd>[16:53:18]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> next idea<br/>
<kbd>[16:53:28]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Front end model creation<br/>
<kbd>[16:53:58]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> +1<br/>
<kbd>[16:55:12]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> PGM mainly has two kinds of models: Bayesian Models and Markov Models<br/>
<kbd>[16:55:13]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Bayesian model is a directed graph<br/>
<kbd>[16:55:13]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Markov model is an undirected graph<br/>
<kbd>[16:55:13]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Use cytoscape (or any other frontend graph library) to let the user create models on the browser<br/>
<kbd>[16:55:17]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> These are the points<br/>
<kbd>[16:56:06]</kbd> <code><shashankg></code> ok<br/>
<kbd>[17:00:38]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> 3rd idea: Front end table creation for CPD and Factor<br/>
<kbd>[17:00:42]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Points:<br/>
<kbd>[17:00:43]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> PGM mainly has two kinds of models Bayesian and Markov<br/>
<kbd>[17:00:43]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Each node of a Bayesian Model has a CPD table associated with it. The size of CPD table depends on the parents of that node and the number of states of that node. Add functionality to create CPD tables for nodes on the browser.<br/>
<kbd>[17:00:44]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Each edge in Markov model has a Factor associated with it. The size of the Factor table depends on the number of variables on which the user wants to define the table on and the no of states of each of those variables<br/>
<kbd>[17:01:56]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> shashankg, skundu Is this ok?<br/>
<kbd>[17:02:05]</kbd> <code><skundu></code> +1<br/>
<kbd>[17:03:24]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> So its all good. We just need to expand these<br/>
<kbd>[17:04:32]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> I will put these ideas on the github page as well as in the semester of code ideas page<br/>
<kbd>[17:04:43]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> by tomorrow morning<br/>
<kbd>[17:05:21]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Anything else to discuss for now ?<br/>
<kbd>[17:05:46]</kbd> <code><skundu></code> ok for me<br/>
<kbd>[17:07:04]</kbd> <code><ankurankan></code> Okay.. so have a look on idea page by tomorrow noon and let me know if something needs to be changed<br/>
<kbd>[16:47:31]</kbd> <strong>[disconnected at Thu Sep 11 16:47:31 2014]</strong><br/>
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