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I think they can be on same page, just should be categorized into workgroups vs hangouts.
should really prioritize the non-workgroups, such as #monero #monero-offtopic #monero-markets etc, but we shouldn't* hide or discourage anyone from joining and lurking in workgroups
im always confused with the hangouts/workgroups pages with how they appear to both try to be each other.
i agree with removing dev from the hangouts page but suggest to also remove every active workgroup already listed on the workgroups page. (community,site,MRL etc).
the workgroups on the workgroup page, and the hangouts on the hangout page. that should be enough to to at least give people a hint.
I would like to suggest that the workgroup and hangout pages should be divided into for developers and not developers.
For an example removing Github, Gitlab links and #monero-dev from hangouts page.
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