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Why does the methane concentration keep increasing in the GEOS-Chem CH4 forward run? #2534

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XunZhangNJU opened this issue Oct 23, 2024 · 3 comments
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category: Question Further information is requested topic: Carbon Gases Simulations Related to simulations with carbon gases (carbon, CO2, CH4, tagCH4, tagCO)

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XunZhangNJU commented Oct 23, 2024

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GEOSChem v14.3.1 CH4 forward run .

When I use two global transport models to simulate CH4 with the same inventory data, initial CH4, and CH4 sinks, why does the CH4 concentration from GEOS-Chem keep increasing? What is causing this? Is there something wrong with my GEOS-Chem inventory settings? Are there other factors involved?
For example, I compared TM5 and GEOS Chem CH4 forward run.
Figure 1 shows time series of the same layer daily CH4 conc. in july, 2015.
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TM5 shows stable monthly fluctuations, whereas GEOS-Chem's CH4 fluctuations differ significantly from TM5.
What is causing this situation? Could you provide me with some advice or literature references to address the issue of continuously increasing GEOS-Chem CH4 concentration? Thanks a lot.

@XunZhangNJU XunZhangNJU added the category: Question Further information is requested label Oct 23, 2024
@XunZhangNJU XunZhangNJU changed the title Why is the concentration of tropospheric methane (Trop CH4) continuously increasing, and why is its rate of change becoming faster? Why does the methane concentration keep increasing in the GEOS-Chem CH4 forward run? Oct 23, 2024
@msulprizio msulprizio added the topic: Carbon Gases Simulations Related to simulations with carbon gases (carbon, CO2, CH4, tagCH4, tagCO) label Oct 23, 2024
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It was recently discovered that the CH4 simulation does not conserve mass (see #2409). We recently merged a fix (#2428) into the 14.5.0 development branch. This version is undergoing final benchmarking and will be released in the coming weeks.

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XunZhangNJU commented Oct 24, 2024

Thanks @msulprizio. I have another question, which is about the order in which GEOS-Chem simulates CH4. Let me give a simple example: the model performs operations advection/convection/diffusion/emission/chemistry as a sequential series, thus for example: a c d e s. So, what operations does the GEOS-Chem model perform?

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@XunZhangNJU I would refer you to main.F90 which is the driver routine for GEOS-Chem (in GCClassic). There you can see the order of operations which is currently: transport, dry deposition, emissions, mixing, convection, chemistry, wet deposition.

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