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+tags: [meeting-notes]
+title: '2024-10-02'
+---
+# conda-forge core meeting 2024-10-02
+
+Add new agenda items under the `Your __new__() agenda items` heading
+
+- [Zoom link](https://zoom.us/j/9138593505?pwd=SWh3dE1IK05LV01Qa0FJZ1ZpMzJLZz09)
+- [What time is the meeting in my time zone](https://dateful.com/convert/utc?t=5pm)
+- [Previous meetings](https://conda-forge.org/community/minutes/)
+
+## Attendees
+
+| Name                    | Initials | GitHub ID        | Affiliation                 |
+| ----------------------- | -------- | ---------------  | --------------------------- |
+| Jaime Rodríguez-Guerra  | JRG      | jaimergp         | Quansight/cf                |
+| Filipe Fernandes        | FF       | ocefpaf          | conda-forge                 |
+| Klaus Zimmermann        | KZ       | zklaus           | Quansight                   |
+| Bianca Henderson        | BH       | beeankha         | Anaconda                    |
+| Marius van Niekerk      | MvN      | mariusvniekerk   | Voltron Data                |
+| Dasha Gurova            | DG       | dashagurova      | Anaconda/conda              |
+| Matthew Becker          | MRB      | beckermr         | cf                          |
+|                         |          |                  |                             |
+|                         |          |                  |                             |
+
+X people total
+
+### Standing items
+
+- [ ]
+
+### From previous meeting(s)
+
+- [X] (JK) CUDA 12 migration close out?
+  - https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge-pinning-feedstock/pull/6263 (HV: already closed since this point was put on the agenda)
+  - How to handle CUDA 12.x?
+- [ ] (JK) (When would we like to) close Python 3.12 migration?
+  - https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge-pinning-feedstock/issues/5892
+- [ ] (JK) NumPy 2 (check-in)
+  - https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge.github.io/issues/1997
+- [ ] (JK) R 4.4 / UCRT (check-in)
+  - https://github.com/conda-forge/r-base-feedstock/issues/325
+  - Still ongoing, but not paused, very well alive
+  - For `ar` issues, use `$AR` (or `binutils` but careful with cross-compiling because). Patch as necessary.
+- [ ] (JRG): Asking for feedback in this issue about CPU instructions, `-march` flags, etc
+    - [ ] https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge.github.io/issues/2251
+
+### Active votes
+
+- [ ]
+
+### Your __new__() agenda items
+
+- [ ] DG: conda build tools meetings are coming back up: next one Oct 10th. Check with Bianca. See conda community events calendar: https://conda.org/community/calendar
+- [ ] WV: rattler-build rollout is going on and [seems to progress nicely](https://github.com/search?type=code&q=org%3Aconda-forge+path%3Arecipe%2Frecipe.yaml). Outstanding items
+    - [ ] Version bumping not available yet
+    - [ ] Migrator not yet "tested" (going to try to add a package to a osx-arm64 migration soon!)
+    - [ ] Experimental cache is already being tried by some multi-output packages
+        - [ ] https://github.com/conda-forge/cherab-inversion-feedstock/blob/9aeb59568a2099551ff5e34f433b29a1beb6ee03/recipe/recipe.yaml#L14
+    - [ ] Bunch of other issues / shortcomings going to be fixed asap in `rattler-build`
+    - [ ] IF: When to move to recipe.yaml in complicated recipes. Would rather wait for compiled things until bugs are fixed.
+    - [ ] https://github.com/prefix-dev/rattler-build/issues/955
+    - [ ] https://github.com/prefix-dev/rattler-build/issues/952
+- [ ] WV: Pixi in CI pipelines
+    - [ ] WV: Why mamba update on CI?
+        - [ ] IF: Old mamba bug, might be resolved now.
+    - [ ] https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge.github.io/issues/2323
+    - [ ] Marius tried locks and got shot down - see https://github.com/conda-forge/conda-forge-lockfiles
+    - [ ] Two separate issues:
+        - [ ] performance for bootstrapping: lockfiles?
+            - [ ] Action item: measure how long it takes. Might be different across OSs.
+        - [ ] local debugging with build-locally.py but with pixi
+- [ ] MRB: infrachanges for rerendering / linting / version commands
+    - [ ] webservices now sends all jobs that process recipes (except for team updates which only read text) to GHA actions
+    - [ ] those GHA jobs run out of conda-forge-webservices actions instead of the actions on repos
+    - [ ] isolation of recipes is done using separate GHA jobs (which are separate VMs) and also docker containers
+    - [ ] if you see issues bump me
+
+### Pushed to next meeting
+
+- [ ]
+
+### CFEPs
+
+- [ ]