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List with all bots ranked by number of followers #35

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t-pfaff opened this issue Jul 20, 2015 · 16 comments
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List with all bots ranked by number of followers #35

t-pfaff opened this issue Jul 20, 2015 · 16 comments

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@t-pfaff
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t-pfaff commented Jul 20, 2015

In addition to the where.geojson a list with all bots ranked by the number of followers would be great. Redeploying the Twitter bot is not too difficult, but maybe getting a decent number of followers is. That way people who redeploy the bot can see which bot is doing best and can ask the people behind it for their follower acquisition strategy.
Makes sense?

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boonrs commented Jul 20, 2015

I like the idea of sharing knowledge on how to increase followers. But I think the metric of number of followers is deceiving. For example, a small town may have a lot of followers proportional to it's population but ranked low.

We could ask all existing implementations to contribute their knowledge to the wiki, regardless of followers. That would institutionalize the knowledge for others.

With that being said, I think a follower count would be interesting with the added context of city size.

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t-pfaff commented Jul 21, 2015

You are right, it only makes sense as a relative number.
Who could take this forward? (adding knowledge to the wiki + relative follower count)

@boonrs
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boonrs commented Jul 21, 2015

As a starting point, we could ping the twitter bots on the map for tips.

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I like the ideas here! Good to talk about how to make this more impactful. I think more followers is good for these bots, but I don't think follower count (even if adjusted for population of a given city) is the best measure of success for this project. More about that in a sec, but first about topic of increasing follower count: @boonrs, great idea to hit up other folks for thoughts on growing followers and @t-pfaff putting what we learn in the wiki is a great idea too.

Personally, I think this impact of this project is more related to making open data useful than it is about helping animals. With that in mind, some ideas for how to measure the success of this project:

  • How many people feel empowered and excited about open data after redeploying this?
  • How many people now have experience working with open data after redeploying this project?
  • How many people deployed their first app because of this?
  • Have we been able to use this small project as a way to show local gov reps that we can do fun, creative things when they open up data for us?
  • Have we been able to use this project to persuade people in power to open more data and become more transparent?

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💬 💬 💬 💬

@t-pfaff
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t-pfaff commented Jul 28, 2015

I totally agree that (relative) followers are not the ideal impact measure. But it's a first proxy that is simple to build.

I set up a first wiki page, asking for both impact stories and open data impact stories. Please check and edit.

For the tweet something like: @XYZ So cool you deployed this bot! We'd like to see more bots. Can you share some tips on the wiki? https://github.com/codeforamerica/CutePets/wiki Do you want to do that from your accounts? Otherwise (maybe with less credibility) our intern can do that from our account. Let me know!

Our intern can also prepare a table with the follower numbers relative to the population. Would be great to have that with dynamic numbers from the Twitter API. Where can this be hosted? If you guys don't want to do it, we could do it on our Wordpress blog (we recently did a dynamic table fetching data from the meetup.com API - see here).

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boonrs commented Jul 28, 2015

We'd ❤️ if your intern wanted to take this on! If they find they're not getting credibility with the request, we can help out. If you're willing to host it on your blog, that would be 😃 for us. Otherwise, CfA has resources we can use.

🍉 Thank you for your thoughtfulness and help. 🎉

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t-pfaff commented Jul 28, 2015

Cool, will ask Costantin to work on that in the next couple of days.

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t-pfaff commented Jul 28, 2015

Which list is more complete, where.geojson or Drew's Twitter list? Or do you update both regularly?

@boonrs
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boonrs commented Jul 28, 2015

I believe the where.geojson is more complete as it's crowd sourced.

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ghost commented Jul 29, 2015

I’ve took all the handles from where.geojson and from the twitter list and removed the duplicates. The table imports followers automatically (it refresh ~ every 30 minutes) feel free to add handlers in the first column. The table is in our cute-pets twitter bot folder

enjoy! :)

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boonrs commented Jul 29, 2015

Lovely @CostantinB! I'll put the link in the Readme to share the knowledge.

@techieshark
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I just got the ping for the Mesa bot.

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t-pfaff commented Aug 4, 2015

@boonrs We tweeted to all bots but didn't get any answer (apart from @techieshark in this thread). And no one has contributed to the wiki page so far. Maybe we didn't have enough credibility. Can you help out?

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boonrs commented Aug 4, 2015

Yes, I'd be happy to help out @t-pfaff . A hypothesis as to why no one has replied, perhaps whoever deployed the bot doesn't check the twitter feed. Might be more productive to hit up the github profile of whoever created a pull request to add the cities.

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t-pfaff commented Aug 5, 2015

Yes, makes sense. Let us try to do that and if it still doesn't work, you could maybe ping them from your account.
@CostantinB: Can you go through the commits of where.geojson and ping the guys who added cities?
@boonrs: Some cities where added by you and @drewrwilson. Where would you look for the people behind these bots?

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