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32KB cartridge images - format? #48

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BGPierce opened this issue Dec 1, 2020 · 4 comments
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32KB cartridge images - format? #48

BGPierce opened this issue Dec 1, 2020 · 4 comments

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BGPierce commented Dec 1, 2020

(from the old issues page)
msmcdoug commented on Sep 14, 2016
Seems there is an incompatibility between Vcc and MAME/MESS for 32KB ROM images.

MAME/MESS want a naturally-ordered ($8000-$FFFF) 32KB block whereas Vcc requires that the top and bottom 16KB blocks are switched ($C000-$FFFF,$8000-$BFFF).

Whilst archives on the net tend to be in the swapped format (Vcc) and therefore incompatible with MAME/MESS, it's worth noting that this swapped format is also unsuitable for burning to FLASH/EPROM.

I would argue that the naturally-ordered format is easier to produce for developers, compatible with MAME/MESS and FLASH/EPROM burners. Should we also change Vcc to use this format?

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BGPierce commented Dec 1, 2020

BGPierce commented on Sep 14, 2016
Mark, I never noticed that myself. In Joes original code, the ROMs were built in, so this has been done during conversion. In fact, I thought the same roms were being used as in Mess/Mame.

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BGPierce commented Dec 1, 2020

msmcdoug commented on Sep 15, 2016
Apologies Bill, I wasn't clear enough in my description.

I'm talking about cartridge ROMs, not ECB/DECB internal ROMs!

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Luis46coco commented on Apr 14, 2017
In the program I can not see that, just load the whole block and activate it
I will review more

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BGPierce commented Dec 1, 2020

BGPierce commented on Dec 11, 2019
Since there's actually been activity in the VCC development lately, I've been going through this list and seeing what can actually be fixed in the next revision.

My question would be, in what format is a "real" coco cart stored? VCC style or mame style?
How many hundereds of carts would this break if this is changed?

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